Index to SSRI stories

You guys really need to take a look at this. Quite mind-boggling. I would take my current depression over this garbage ANY day.


14 thoughts on “Index to SSRI stories

  1. […] Original post by heidilore […]

  2. Wow thanks for sharing that!!


  3. LeClairity says:

    reasons why I refuse any meds, aside from my Multiple Sclerosis treatment. I’d rather deal with depression with a clear mind than to dope myself up with these warped mind control money makers

  4. Eric says:

    You people are crazy. Antidepressants are good and if more people were on them we would have a lot less violence. Grow up and do research on how many people it would help. Personlly I think that everyone should take them to fix life

  5. LeClairity says:

    shhh Heidi.. Grow up and do research oh nevermind.. but but we should blindly pop pills that give us side effects that cause and force us to take pills to ease those side effects, but actually give more side effect.. and give more money to the drug companies until enough people become Homicidal or Suicidal and said drug companies settle out of court for less than 1% of the profit they made turning us into the aforementioned Suicidal/Homicidal slaves! It’s the Capitalist way damnit!

  6. Eric says:

    Judging by the stupidity of the stuff in this blog I would say you are the insane one.

  7. Heidi,

    Your work IS appreciate here, I found the link extremely useful! Passed it along to other blogo-sphere researchers. I FOR ONE, can speak from 1st hand experience of vodoo PSI-KI-Atrists big pharma-brainswashing…

    Peace Heidi.

  8. Annie says:

    The poorly designed SSRI Stories is also poorly written and doesn’t consider any of the following:

    1) Sometimes people do crazy, stupid stuff. Dangerous stuff. Horrible stuff. A glance through newspapers pre-SSRI and pre-antidepressant will show that. Just because someone happens to be on an SSRI doesn’t mean that’s the reason they did something bad or wrong.

    2) As noted above, people do bad stuff. SSRI doesn’t even bother to factor in similar crimes in which antidepressants are NOT cited as a factor. A fair look at whether or not SSRIs are causing more crime and problems would be to observe and count ALL types of the stories collected in SSRI stories, make a subset of the ones linked to SSRIs and then see if the percentage of linked stories is bigger than the percentage of the population on SSRIs. (Random example for which I have done NO research: if fifteen percent of people are on SSRIs and twenty percent of all murders are done while on SSRIs, one could conclude that there is a slightly elevated risk while on an SSRI.)

    3) The site overlooks the fact that people are, generally, on SSRIs for a reason — they have mental health issues. A quick look at any prison will show that there is a higher percentage of people with mental health issues within the prison system than there is in the general public. People with mental health problems can be unstable. Sometimes an SSRI might make that worse (in which case, a patient should be removed from the medication as quickly as is safely possible), sometimes an SSRI might not work at all. And if you suffer from mental health problems, getting put on a medication and not seeing an improvement can cause a decline because you start to think that nothing will ever help and you’ll be this way forever — a sort of reverse placebo effect.

    YES there needs to be reform in the mental health system and in the creation and prescription of mental health drugs. Some drugs have are known (especially by the drug companies) to be more harmful than helpful (seroxat and effexor come to mind), and the public should be made aware of things like that.

    Additionally, there needs to be closer supervision of patients and better screening processes to ensure that the drugs are truly needed.

    But NO, correlation does not imply causality. SSRI Stories is jumping to conclusions and doing more harm than good. If it’s creator truly believes and wants to show that SSRIs are a problem to society, they needs to use better sociological and statistical methods of research to come up with conclusive findings rather than use one logical fallacy after another to build a straw man.

  9. Rosie says:


    You forget that people who are depressed have always been notoriously known as non-violent. Do a little research, o.k.

    What you propose is interesting, comparing the number of murders with those on SSRIs as to those not on SSRIs, but this would be a little difficult to do since only one person is involved in maintaining SSRI Stories and this is a full time job in itself.

    This is what a peer reviewed Journal Article had to say about SSRI Stories:

    In the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons: Volume 14: number 1: Spring 2009, there is an article by Joel M. Kauffman, Ph.D., [Professor of chemistry emeritus at the University of the Sciences, Philadelphia, Pa.] which is titled: Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibior [SSRI] Drugs: More Risk Than Benefits?”

    In regard to SSRI Stories, Dr. Kaufmann made the following statement: “Since no clinical trial involving multiple homicides is ever likely to be run, no firmer evidence is likely to be found. Healy noted that much of the evidence for suicide and murder came from the efforts of journalists and lawyers”.

    To read the full article go to:

  10. Rosie says:


    On SSRI Stories, the drugs are changing the known ratio of men to women who are committing completed murder-suicides.

    I started with 189 completed murder-suicides – 55 by women and 134 by men appearing on SSRI Stories. In order to compare these numbers, I must scale them to account for the fact that women are two and one-half times more likely in the general population to be taking an antidepressant.

    So I took the number 55 [women an antidepressants] and scaled it to account for this additional two and one-half times [more women an antidepressants] and came up with the number 22. Thus, after the scaling, I ended up with 22 women and 134 men for a total of 156. Looking at 22 women out of 156 people, I get 14.1 percent. But I would have expected, in the general population, to have only 5 percent [ because I have already scaled ] of women committing these completed murder -suicides. The 5% figure comes from a study of the year 2007 [ six months of records nationwide for completed murder-suicides].

    Thus, I have concluded that women are almost three times as likely [14.1% vs. 5%] to commit a completed murder-suicide using the SSRIs as are men.

    If anyone is interested in finding out if the rate of murder-suicides by men is also rising, this would be an excellent idea. I think SSRIs are effecting men and woman equally so, if women are committing more completed murder-suicides while on SSRIs, then, it follows as the night the day, that men must also be doing the same.

  11. Rosie says:

    I don’t have time to argue but it is true that, historically, depressed people were not prone to violence. Perhaps you could do the research on this.

    And, yes, others are receiving the SSRIs for indications other than depression – a 15 year old girl was given Zoloft for warts and killed herself, for example.

    As for the violence, here is what the Japanese Health Ministry [the equivalent of our FDA] had to say about SSRIs.

    First two paragraphs read: “‘Is the antidepressant I’m taking safe?’ I am hearing this question from my patients more and more. The reason? The media has recently reported that among antidepressant users, some develop increased feelings of hostility or anxiety, and have even committed sudden acts of violence against others.”

    “The Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare has investigated the side-effects of antidepressants and has decided to revise the warnings on the medication, stating, ‘There are cases where we cannot rule out a causal relationship with the medication’.”

    No need to fear antidepressants if patients, doctors team up on diagnosis, treatment
    Rika Kayama

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